Friday, February 12, 2016

Chapter 2

In chapter 2, how do the eyes of Dr. TJ Eckleburg serve as a symbol for judgment? 
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  1. The eyes of Eckleburg symbolize the loss of spiritual values in America and how life in America is all about making money. A man's success is rated about his wealth rather than what kind of person he is morally. "Evidently some wild wag of an oculist set them there to fatten his practice in the borough of Queens, and then sank down himself into eternal blindness, or forgot them and moved away.(Fitzgerald 23-24)."

    Shawn McDermott 3A

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    1. I agree with this completely. The 1920's were obviously a very materialistic time and no one else quite cared how "cool" you were unless if you had money.

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    2. I agree, the eyes is located at the valley of ashes which is a place that people lost their dreams and live for money and more 'realistic' things in life such as money or fancy cars.

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    3. I totally agree with this statement. Americans back then and some even now still only care about how expensive something is or how much money one can make.

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    4. I wholesomely agree with this answer. Since the eyes are blank due to lack of care, they directly correlate with the fact that spiritual values are missing at the time. The old way of 'seeing' things have been lost over the years.

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    5. I agree completely. It seems like the American Dream in the 20's was to just have a lot of money and to see was the wealthiest. No one wanted to live a poor lifestyle, but those who did looked up to the wealthier people and basically used them. Just like how Gatsby's guests weren't there for Gatsby, they were there for the parties.

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    7. I agree America went from being a place of honor and integrity to a corrupt place. The characters in the book capture the essence of what the 1920's is about. The eyes simply serve as a reminder of their wrongdoing.

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    8. I agree, because America in the 1920's was almost demolished so to speak, due to wealth and corruption. The eyes of Eckleburg look upon as judgment, and reflect the present and future of society. The billboard faces into the valley of ashes, which is a place to judge on its own.

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  2. In the eyes of Eckleburg symbolize how Americans rely on making money and the loss of his values and it also shows how women are after the money that the men are making all the wealth and it trues the men into rude people

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    1. I also agree that the eyes represents a Thone of mourn and the decline of life . Most of these people are partying but they don't really see the main part of life and that's not to work miserably but to work hard enough and to have success.

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    2. I agree that during the time period people were way more materialistic. Everybody was always going after that "lifestyle" as they still are now but women more specifically chased after men because of mere money and security rather than personality or pure love.

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    3. I agree that the eyes symbolize the importance of money during this time, but I also think it symbolizes how during this time you were always being judged in ways that don't have any effect on who you are as a person.

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    5. I agree i think that during this time period everyone and everything revolved around money. Rather then looking for love or honesty Women only cared about money. For example when Myrtle married George. Myrtle on married George because she thought that he had a lot of money when in reality it didn't have much money at all. The glamorous life of partying and money was what it was all about during the 1920's.

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    6. I agree that the eyes kind of judge people on their obsession with money, but I also think that they judge the morals of right and wrong between people. An example is the affair between Myrtle and Tom, when Tom goes right under Dr Eckleburg's nose and eyes, completely unaware of judgment.

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    7. Yes i agree with you there is no other way to explain it
      is that the couple that is married nothing but a fluk meaning that they are just a lie and mrytle is noting but dirty and wrong doing human being

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  3. Near the end of the novel, Wilson and Michaelis discuss the eyes of Dr. T. J. Eckleburg being like the eyes of God. In addition, I think the eyes might also represent the characters’ views of themselves. Wilson says that the eyes will always see what a person has done wrong which suggests that a person always knows his/her rights and wrongs. For all her reasons, Myrtle knows that she has done the wrong thing by having an affair with Tom, and Wilson’s mention of the eyes points to the retribution that one must pay for his/her wrongs. This also shows the dreadful life of the people that live in the valley of shadows watching them sweat over the hard work that they do day to day . They're almost like ghosts floating around that have no purpose. This symbol reminds me of the watchfulness and observing nature that Gatsby has. The fact that not many people even know him shows that Gatsby is very conservative and observes a lot like the eyes that watch everyone .

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    1. i agree that the eyes are viewed as god's eye because they are so large they can be seen from afar but, i dont think that Mrytle knows she has done something wrong. In Myrtle's eyes because wilson fooled her at the altar by wearing an exspensive and borrowed tuxedo, that makes her affair just.

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    2. I agree, I believe the eyes of Dr. Edkleburg represent the eyes of God. It makes the reader aware that God is always watching. He sees the good and evil no matter what.

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  4. The eyes of Dr. T.J. Eckleburg, are "gigantic", and this can symbolize for judgement, because while you are living your life you can people watching you trying to judge your moves. "No face", it could mean people talk behind your back and you don't know who just hear it. This symbolizes judgement when people judge you while you going on with your life.

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    1. I agree, but in a way the eyes can be symbolizing the readers who are over watching and judging the characters like 'gods'.

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    2. I agree, but in a way the eyes can be symbolizing the readers who are over watching and judging the characters like 'gods'.

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    3. I agree, but also Sheldon brings up a good point. The readers are looking through his eyes and are acting like gods by watching and judging everyone down below.

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    4. I agree, but also Sheldon brings up a good point. The readers are looking through his eyes and are acting like gods by watching and judging everyone down below.

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    5. I agree, you made a very good point about "no face". People talk and they never really know who they are talking to.

      Victoria Gonzales

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  5. The eyes of Dr. T.J. Eckleburg, are "gigantic", and this can symbolize for judgement, because while you are living your life you can people watching you trying to judge your moves. "No face", it could mean people talk behind your back and you don't know who just hear it. This symbolizes judgement when people judge you while you going on with your life.

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    1. Yes, I agree. There are right and wrongs especially when it comes to judgement.The eyes are large to convey the message of always being watched.

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  6. In the passage Nick mentions the doctors gaze as "persistent". Showing that whatever they were doing he was watching their every move judging and making an assumption about them. Nick feels as though the doctor is looking down upon them and what they are doing.

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    1. I agree the eyes are a symbol of judgement and they watch the characters every move, however even though they are literally "looking down" on people i don't necessarily think it's a negative thing.

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  7. While i do agree that Tom is very disrespectful, i also believe that he is incredibly misunderstood. Tom is trying to assert his manliness by "putting women in their place." which only proves that he is insecure. While Tom is disrespectful throughout the novel, there are moments that his soft side shines through.One of those times is when he defends Daisy to Myrtle. His actions show he clearly does care about daisy.

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  8. The eyes of Dr. TJ Eckleburg symbolize that God is always watching.In the book it says, "The eyes of Doctor T.J. Eckleburg are blue and gigantic-their retinas are one yard high". This means that they can see everything that is going on. It also means that they are always watching and making judgement.

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  9. The eyes of Dr. TJ Eckleburg symbolize that God is always watching.In the book it says, "The eyes of Doctor T.J. Eckleburg are blue and gigantic-their retinas are one yard high". This means that they can see everything that is going on. It also means that they are always watching and making judgement.

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    1. Hey Hailey, I completely agree with what you are saying. The reason why TJ Eckleburg is even there is to give the workers a sigh of hope, but ultimately it doesn't mean that. TJ Eckleburg, as you said, is a symbol of God, and how he is always looking over them, no matter what happens.

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  10. The eyes of Doctor Eckleburg and the size of them "The eyes of Doctor T.J. Eckleburg... retinas are one yard high" represent the large importance during this time period on how you are viewed. Peoples worth was based on their image and what they had materialisticly not on who they were as a person. Also they represent the idea that if you had more money you had more worth as a person, because Doctor Eckleburg (who was probably wealthy) was looking down on the inhabitants of the valley of ashes.
    -Matthew Murphy

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  11. The eyes of Doctor TJ represent the notion that anyone can see past ones materialistic views if they only look deep enough. However most of the time in this 1920s setting everyone is so focused on the materialistic options of this world to truly notice what is going on behind the scenes. This then creates a circle in which everyone thinks their neighbour is just a shallow fellow whom is rich and throws parties.

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    1. I agree, the pair of eyes symbolize the all-knowing. They see through the characters of the novel and know their true motives. The need for wealth describes the materialistic view point of the characters.

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    2. I agree with this statement because Doctor TJ looks upon Nick with a certain look of disapproval at times when Nick makes a standby or comment.

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  14. In the beginning of chapter two Fitzgerald explains Doctor T.J. Eckleburgs eyes as, "blue and gigantic---their retinas are one yard high." This serves as a symbol of judgement because being watched and looked down upon while passing by will make people feel like they are doing something wrong. In a broader aspect I feel like the eyes symbolize the judgement throughout the town because everyone gossips about the townspeople behind their backs, especially Gatsby.

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  15. It is mentioned in the beginning of chapter 2 of Great Gatsby and its describes The eyes of Doctor T.J. Eckleburg "are blue gigantic they retinas are one yard high". The reason it is seen as judgement is people are being looked down upon making them feel liked they are being judged.

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  16. I agree. The 1920 was a time that no one didn't really care about how popular or cool u are only if you had money.

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  17. It is mentioned in the beginning of chapter 2 that "The eyes of Doctor T.J. Elkleburg are blue gigantic they retinas are one yard high." The eyes are looking down on people, making the feel like they are being judged by others. But also everyone goes around spreading gossip which is also judging people.

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  18. It is mentioned in the beginning of chapter 2 that "The eyes of Doctor T.J. Elkleburg are blue gigantic they retinas are one yard high." The eyes are looking down on people, making the feel like they are being judged by others. But also everyone goes around spreading gossip which is also judging people.

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  19. first of all the eyes look down at you. it looks down at the people in the vally of ash. i agree.

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  20. In the beginning of chapter 2 the valley of ashes is explained and drawn out in great detail to be this gloomy little town with The eyes of Doctor T.J. Elkleburg looking out over the city seeing all and also knowing all

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  21. In the eyes of Eckleburg symbolize how Americans rely on how much money and their social status instead of how people treat each other

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